[kitten] Realm Crossover for SASL

Rick van Rein <rick@openfortress.nl> Fri, 06 January 2023 14:10 UTC

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Subject: [kitten] Realm Crossover for SASL
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Hi,

For the interim, it would be nice to discuss our work on
Realm Crossover, meaning bringing a SASL login from a foreign
service back to a user's own domain via Diameter.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vanrein-diameter-sasl/

Spiffy points are:

 - Relaying channel binding information to a strict non-service
   backend is considered secure

 - Derivation of application keys from shared entropy to make
   life hard on quantum computers

Cheers,
 -Rick