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Re: [kitten] Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb-spake-preauth-00

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Thu, 17 August 2017 01:51 UTC

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:51:37 -0500
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: "Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP" <hbhotz@oxy.edu>
Cc: Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu>, "kitten@ietf.org" <kitten@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [kitten] Comments on draft-ietf-kitten-krb-spake-preauth-00
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 10:30:23AM -0700, Henry B (Hank) Hotz, CISSP wrote:
> 
> > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:13 AM, Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks very much for the review.  I know that this draft is a bit denser
> > than some.
> 
> The density is whatever it needs to be for the subject. The material is well organized, and clear per se, but the reader needs to know that some material needed to appreciate the early sections is in later sections. 
> 
> If we can get someone else new to go through it and see if more forward references are needed . . .

I marked up a few more places in addition to the couple you mentioned already,
in my first pass through it.  (Actual review email to come soon, I hope.)



[in separate mail]

> The precise form of pake specified is apparently unique in some details. I
> wonder if we should get the cfrg to review and comment on it.

I do plan to mention it to Kenny Paterson, as we had talked about this
work in a general sense previously.  He is of course well-qualified to
assess whether seeking full CFRG input is merited.

-Ben

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