[L2sm] FW: L2SM charter proposal

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 26 October 2016 15:13 UTC

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Subject: [L2sm] FW: L2SM charter proposal
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Subject: Re: [L2sm] L2SM charter proposal
 



>> But we could...
>> OLD
>> The working group will coordinate with other working groups responsible for
>> L2VPN protocol work (most notably with BESS and PALS) and with the MEF.
>> NEW
>> The working group will coordinate with other working groups responsible for
>> L2VPN protocol work (most notably with BESS and PALS). It will also
coordinate
>> with other organizations working on related L2VPN data models (such as the
>> MEF).
>> END
 
>Noting external dependencies in a separate sentence is better.
 
>Do the WG proponents plan to share details on how they plan to deal with the
overlapping work in MEF?
 

Sorry for late reply, talking with our delegate in MEF,I think the collaboration
is needed if the detailed performance parameters, performance metric,
performance objective should be modeled in l2sm model, but the debate point is
how much details we should cover, since I don't believe we should focus on
enumerating a large list of perf measurement related data, if it is healthy to
have them, I think we should create a sla container for placeholder to include
these parameters that are defined by MEF 23.2,definitely MEF reference is
needed, right now we authors still debate on details we should cover.



Chongfeng Xie
 
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