Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-05.txt
"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Thu, 17 April 2014 03:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review:
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Lizhong, I don't think you need a new section, just the new text in 5.3. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Lizhong Jin <lizho.jin@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > See inline below. Thank you. > > > > Regards > > Lizhong > > > > *From:* Andrew G. Malis [mailto:agmalis@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 2014年4月17日 1:42 > *To:* Lizhong Jin > *Cc:* rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org; l2vpn@ietf.org; rtg-dir@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy.all@tools.ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: > draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain-redundancy-05.txt > > > > Lizhong, > > > > You're welcome! Continued inline, with unnecessary text trimmed ... > > > > Minor Issues: > > > > Section 5.3: The draft includes two variants of the 3:1 protection model, > referred to as options A and B. However, it does not provide any criteria > or guidelines for selection between the two either for code implementation > or network operation. The draft should state whether one or both are > required for implementation (I would guess both) and how to choose between > them operationally (there are hints if you read between the lines, but it > should be explicit). It is also implied (but again not explicitly stated) > that both domains should choose the same option. That should be explicitly > stated, if correct, and should be repeated in Section 6. > > [Lizhong] Thank you for pointing out this. This is the missing part for a > standard track draft. > > The implementation MUST support option A, and MAY support option B. Option > B will be useful when the two legacy PEs in one domain does not support the > function in this document. The two legacy PEs still need to support PW > redundancy defined in [RFC 6870], but be configured as slave node. > > > > Andy: Are you going to update section 5.3 to include this text? > > [Lizhong] yes. Or we could have another section “Backward compatibility” > to include the second sentence. Any suggestion? > > > > > > The Section 6 will be updated as below: > > When deploying the inter-domain redundancy mechanism described in this > document, some manual operation/negotiation is required to be done > correctly and securely. For all the options described in section 5.2 and > 5.3, each node within one RG should be configured with same redundancy > mode, and both domains should choose the same option. For the two-PWs > redundancy options defined in section 5.2, the two operators should also > negotiate to configure same high/low PW priority at the two PW end-points. > If the configuration consistency is broken, the inter-domain redundancy > mechanism may not work properly. > > > > Andy: Could you simplify this to: > > > > When deploying the inter-domain redundancy mechanism described in this > document, consistent provisioning is required for proper operation. The two > domains must both use the same use case (section 5.2 or section 5.3). > Within each section, all of the described modes and options must be > provisioned identically both within each RG and between the RGs. > Additionally, for the two-PWs redundancy options defined in section 5.2, > the two operators must also negotiate to configure same high/low PW > priority at the two PW end-points. If the provisioning is inconsistent, > then the inter-domain redundancy mechanism may not work properly. > > [Lizhong] accepted, thank you. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy >
- RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-inter-domain… Andrew G. Malis
- RE: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpl… Lizhong Jin
- Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpl… Andrew G. Malis
- RE: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpl… Lizhong Jin
- Re: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpl… Andrew G. Malis
- RE: [RTG-DIR] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpl… Lizhong Jin