Re: MAC route with IP
Aldrin Isaac <aldrin.isaac@gmail.com> Wed, 14 May 2014 03:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: MAC route with IP
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How about: "Note that a MAC-only route can be advertised along with MAC/IP routes for use cases where an active MAC must remain reachable when all IP's become disassociated with that MAC." On Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi Aldrin, > > I believe the application of MAC/IP route in section 10 is clear. > However, if you think we can make further clarification, please suggest the > text. We need to make sure the functionality that we specify is clearly > described and explained. We don't need to describe/mention the > functionality that is not used/needed. > > Thanks, > Ali > > From: Aldrin Isaac <aldrin.isaac@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aldrin.isaac@gmail.com');> > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:14 AM > To: Cisco Employee <sajassi@cisco.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sajassi@cisco.com');> > > > Cc: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jdrake@juniper.net');>>, > Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jakob.heitz@ericsson.com');>>, > "l2vpn@ietf.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l2vpn@ietf.org');>" < > l2vpn@ietf.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','l2vpn@ietf.org');>>, Antoni > Przygienda <antoni.przygienda@ericsson.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','antoni.przygienda@ericsson.com');> > > > Subject: Re: MAC route with IP > > Would it be worthwhile to mention that MAC/IP routes should not be used > as a proxy for MAC-only route? > > On Tuesday, May 13, 2014, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com> wrote: > > > Yes, although my email and Jorge's emails crossed each others, we are > both saying exactly the same thing. > > That's why I think the existing text is sufficient and we don't need to > add any thing more because both of the scenarios I mentioned below can > happen and the existing text covers them both. > > Cheers, > Ali > > > > From: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net> > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:44 AM > To: Cisco Employee <sajassi@cisco.com>om>, Jakob Heitz < > jakob.heitz@ericsson.com>gt;, "l2vpn@ietf.org" <l2vpn@ietf.org> > Cc: Antoni Przygienda <antoni.przygienda@ericsson.com> > Subject: RE: MAC route with IP > > Ali, > > > > As both Jorge and you have pointed out, there may indeed be cases for > which there should not be a MAC only route. > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > > > > *From:* L2vpn [mailto:l2vpn-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of * Ali Sajassi > (sajassi) > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:38 AM > *To:* Jakob Heitz; l2vpn@ietf.org > *Cc:* Antoni Przygienda > *Subject:* Re: MAC route with IP > > > > > > Even if there is reordering by route reflector, then as I said, I don't > see an issue here :-) In your example, the receiver sees the withdrawn of > the IP/MAC route before receiving the MAC-only route. In that case, the > traffic toward that MAC address will get flooding (or dropped if flooding > is disabled) till it receives the MAC-only route. However, why does the > sender has to wait till it withdraws the IP/MAC advertisement before > sending the MAC-only advertisement – e.g., why doesn't the sender send > MAC-only advertisement as soon as it learns it. > > > > Again, there are scenarios in which learning is done in data-plane along > with ARP suppression. In such scenarios, the sender should send MAC-only > route as soon as it learns it and MAC/IP route when it snoops the ARP. > However, there are other scenarios where there is no MAC learning in > data-plane. In such scenario, when a VM becomes known, the MAC/IP route is > advertised and if the VM goes away, MAC/IP is withdrawn. In such scenarios, > we don't want to advertise an extra route (MAC-only route) unnecessarily. > > > > Cheers, > > Ali > > > > *From: *Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com> > *Date: * > >
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