Re: AD review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn

"Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com> Fri, 12 September 2014 22:24 UTC

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From: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>
To: "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn.all@tools.ietf.org" <draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn.all@tools.ietf.org>
Subject: Re: AD review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn
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Hi Adrian,

I just posted an updated evpn draft to address all your comments per
resolutions below.

Cheers,
Ali

On 7/21/14, 12:55 AM, "Ali Sajassi (sajassi)" <sajassi@cisco.com> wrote:

>Adrian,
>
>Thanks very much for your review. I will incorporate your comments into
>the next rev. For more details, please refer inline ...
>
>Regards,
>Ali
>
>On 7/18/14 3:56 PM, "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Goodness, but there's a long and complicated document. But I think
>>you have made it as clear and concise as it could possibly have been.
>>Good job!
>>
>>I have done my AD review and found no substantive issues. I do,
>>however, have a little pile of nits. Actually, quite a large heap.
>>Nothing to worry about, but if you could clean them up i think it
>>would improve the document still further.
>>
>>The only topics that need real attention are those related to IANA.
>>
>>Let me know how you get on, and please object if my comments are wrong.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Adrian
>>
>>===
>>
>>It would be best to move the Introduction to be the first section in
>>the document.
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 5
>>
>>   Ethernet segments have an
>>   identifier, called the "Ethernet Segment Identifier" (ESI) which is
>>   encoded as a ten octets integer.
>>
>>It would help if you said "...in line format with the most significant
>>octet sent first."
>
>Done.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 5
>>
>>   In general, an Ethernet segment MUST have a non-reserved ESI that is
>>   unique network wide
>>
>>"In general" is not really consistent with "MUST"
>
>Will change "MUST" to "SHOULD"
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Do you want an IANA registry to track the values of the Type field of
>>the ESI? 
>
>We don't anticipate any other ESI type besides the ones mentioned here.
>
>>                 
>>
>>---              
>>
>>There is some mixing of "octet" and "byte" in the document. This creates
>>the impression that you mean something different by the two words.
>
>Will make it consistent.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Could you expand DF on first use. You have it in 8.3.
>
>Will do.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 6
>>
>>You use "Ethernet Tag ID", "Ethernet Tag", and "Ethernet Tag Identifier"
>>interchangeably. It would be helpful to use just one term and to check
>>usage in the rest of the document.
>
>Will do.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 6.1
>>
>>   In such
>>   scenarios, the Ethernet frames transported over MPLS/IP network
>>   SHOULD remain tagged with the originating VID and a VID translation
>>   MUST be supported in the data path and MUST be performed on the
>>   disposition PE.
>>
>>I think you should add under what circumstances the frames MAY be re-
>>tagged with a different VID (or s/SHOULD/MUST). You don't need a
>>detailed explanation, but a guide to the implementer/operator.
>
>The sentence before this says:
>"If the VLAN is represented
>   by different VIDs on different PEs, then each PE needs to perform VID
>   translation for frames destined to its attached CEs."
>
>I thought this description is clear enough but I will try to make it more
>clear.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Do you want IANA to create a registry and track the Route Types defined
>>for the EVPN NLRI in Section 7?
>
>We'll look into it.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 7.1 and onwards...
>>
>>I know "RD" is a term of art in the context of BGP, but could you
>>please expand RD it on first use rather than leaving that to 8.2.1.
>
>Sure, we'll do.
>
>>
>>(All the forward references to later sections are good, thanks.)
>>
>>---
>>
>>A small inconsistency between sections 7 and 8. In the figures in
>>Section 7 you have "MPLS Label" and "MPLS Label1" etc. In the text
>>in Section 8 you have "MPLS label" etc. When you refer to the fields
>>you need to match the case. When you refer to the concept of an MPLS
>>label, you can (of course) use normal case.
>
>Agreed.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Are you sure that the ESI Label extended community and subtypes don't
>>need IANA intervention here?
>
>We have registered these values with IANA. We will reflect that in IANA
>section.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>It would be nice if 7.5 included a hint as to what an "ESI label" is.
>
>Agreed.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>In 7.10
>>
>>   If a PE uses RT-Constrain, the PE SHOULD advertise all such RTs using
>>   RT Constraints.
>>
>>Is this a general restatement of RFC 4684 (if so add "As described in
>>[RFC4684]...") or new guidance for implementers of this spec (if so,
>>what is the reason for SHOULD? is there a MAY to counter it?)
>
>I'll add RFC4684 reference.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>8.1.1
>>
>>   The Ethernet Segment Identifier MUST be set to the ten octet ESI
>>   identifier described in section 5.
>>
>>Would that be the ESII? :-)
>
>Nice catch :-)
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>8.2.1 has "MANDATORY" I guess you are inventing a 2119 term to counter-
>>point "OPTIONAL". Please use "REQUIRED."
>
>Agreed.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>In Section 13.1
>>
>>   In certain
>>   environments the source MAC address MAY be used to authenticate the
>>   CE and determine that traffic from the host can be allowed into the
>>   network.
>>
>>Want to hint which environments they would be. Possibly more important,
>>want to say in which environments this would be a damn fool idea?
>
>We'll do :-)
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>14.1.2
>>
>>   The MPLS label stack to send the packets to PE1 is the MPLS LSP stack
>>   to get to PE1 and the EVPN label advertised by PE1 for CE1's MAC.
>>
>>and
>>
>>   The MPLS label stack to send packets to PE2 is the MPLS LSP stack to
>>   get to PE2 and the MPLS label in the Ethernet A-D route advertised by
>>   PE2 for <ES1, VLAN1>, if PE2 has not advertised MAC1 in BGP.
>>
>>It *should* be perfectly obvious to the implementer, but perhaps you
>>should say what order the labels appear on the stack since "and" is non-
>>specific.
>
>OK.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 18
>>
>>I wish you would add a reference to 4385 and use that control word with
>>the various fields set to zero. This would keep us from increasing the
>>number of different control word definitions in the wild. I think that
>>the impact on your spec would be zero.
>
>We'll do.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>Section 21 should be renamed "Contributors"
>
>We'll do.
>
>>
>>---
>>
>>I think RFC 2119 is a normative reference.
>
>OK.
>
>>
>