Re: More comments about draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04

"Sami Boutros (sboutros)" <sboutros@cisco.com> Sat, 26 July 2014 04:20 UTC

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From: "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" <sboutros@cisco.com>
To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge)" <jorge.rabadan@alcatel-lucent.com>
Subject: Re: More comments about draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04
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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:20:02 +0000
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Hi Jorge,

Thanks for your comments.

Couple of comments inline.
On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) wrote:

> Hi Ali,
> 
> Thank you.
> About the following:
> 
> "Since there is no BD, I don't think we need to have a normalized Ether-tag
> similar to VLAN-aware bundling in EVPN. We do the VID translation at the
> egress PE using MPLS label alone."
> 
> 
> If that is the case, the draft differs from the procedures defined in EVPN
> (there is no normalized eth-tag in the data plane anymore even if the
> eth-tag is not zero in the EVPN AD routes). Therefore the behavior has to
> be detailed in the draft so that we avoid misinterpretations.

Sami: 
The draft is explicit about the tag usage as a service instance for both EPL and EVPL 
services. Not sure what details more we can add, but please suggest something?


> I’d be happy to contribute to the development of this draft.
> 

Sami: Sure this will be great.

>>>> 
>>>>> .- in single-active MH the behavior is ³slightly" different and MUST be
>>>>> documented: 
>>>>> In EVPN, for single-active MH, the two MH PEs (PE1 and PE2 for ESI1)
>>>>> will
>>>>> send both their per ESI AD routes and per EVI AD routes. When the DF
>>>>> (PE1)
>>>>> sends MAC1/ESI1/next-hop=PE1, the remote PE3 will install MAC1 with
>>>>> next-hop = PE1 and backup next-hop = PE2.
>>>>> In VPWS the DF will obviously not send a MAC route, hence the question
>>>>> is:
>>>>> how does PE3 know whether to send the traffic for the VPWS id to PE1 or
>>>>> PE2? the non-DF for the VPWS id (PE2) should not - in this case - send
>>>>> a
>>>>> per EVI AD route for ESI1. Only the per-ESI AD route.
>>>> 
>>>> Or we can follow the same procedure as baseline EVPN and send a MAC
>>>> route
>>>> with Ether-tag set to the service-id (as before) and with MAC set to
>>>> NULL.
>>>> Let's discuss it further.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like a good idea. I would suggest the use of mac route with MAC =
>>> 0/48 (reusing the unknown mac route of the evpn-overlay-dci draft.
>>> 

Sami: Let's discuss this more.

Thanks,

Sami