RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange-ftgroup.com> Mon, 13 October 2008 16:21 UTC
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Subject: RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange-ftgroup.com>
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Hi again Maria,
NAPIERALA, MARIA H, ATTLABS :
>
> if the MVPN solution does not lay out the correct foundation to support
> basic multicast capabilities in VPN context like PIM-Bidir, Anycast-RP,
> or anycast sourcing then those capabilities cannot be just added on
> after the fact. They have to be an integral part of the solution.
Let's try to be pragmatic...
Anycast schemes
Anycast-RP is a requirement formulated in RFC4834 ("SHOULD work
transparently through a multicast VPN"). Is is true that the
type of anycast sourcing that you described is not specifically
covered.
Let's go to the most important point for an operator: both are
fully supported by draft-ietf-2547bis-mcast. A specific UMH
selection algorithm that is common to BGP-based and PIM-based
C-multicast routing, is defined as a "SHOULD" in section 5.1.3.
If there were to be, at some point in the future, multiple
proposals to support anycast schemes (pure hypothesis), we could
certainly cover this in draft-morin-l3vpn-mvpn-considerations,
and try to define which one to privilege.
(If you think that solution drafts are lacking in some way to
properly support anycast schemes, or do not have the proper
SHOULD/MUST/MAY level, then I think that you should make
comments to amend draft-ietf-2547bis-mcast )
Bidir-PIM
Customer Bidir-PIM is already defined as a SHOULD in RFC4834. It
is already supported by draft-ietf-2547bis-mcast, by both the
PIM-based and BGP-based C-multicast routing approaches. There
happen to be two approaches defined to support Bidir-PIM
("outsourced RPL" in section 11.1, and "partitioned sets of PEs"
section 11.2).
I note that no contribution what yet proposed by the working
group to implement in priority one of these approach, and since
you are interested in the subject, we will certainly welcome a
contribution on the matter from you. This is totally 100% in
the scope of the document evolution that can be expected from
the document once adopted (obviously we would have welcome a
contribution before too).
Does this address your comments ?
-Thomas
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