RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
"RAMACHANDRAN, PRASANNA, ATTOPS" <prasanna@att.com> Wed, 08 October 2008 23:20 UTC
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Subject: RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
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From: "RAMACHANDRAN, PRASANNA, ATTOPS" <prasanna@att.com>
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>, l3vpn@ietf.org
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I vote NO. Being in AT&T Advanced Tier support group and having supported the MVPN core for the last 2 years, I can clearly say that we need a solution such as PIM-BiDir that can reduce the number of multicast states in the PEs to be able to scale the Groups X Sources x OILs explosion for our very large Enterprise customers. We definitely do not want to tweak a crucial protocol like BGP of which our scale is 2 Million VPNV4 routes in the US alone. Prasanna Ramachandran Advanced Technical Support - Internet Edge AT&T Global Network Operations Voice# 732-420-6439 Email # prasanna@att.com "This email and any files transmitted with it are AT&T property, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this email is addressed. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited." -----Original Message----- From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:04 AM To: l3vpn@ietf.org Cc: Ross Callon Subject: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts This email starts a 3 week call for input, to expire October 23, 2008, for the following steps: 1.) To accept draft-morin-l3vpn-mvpn-considerations-03 as a working group document; and 2.) To turn this document into a requirements draft, with mandatory to implement features for an interoperable implementation. The authors have indicated that they are willing to do this. Our intention is, if this approach is accepted, to then begin WG last call to submit to the IESG for publication: draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp We expect that these two documents will be submitted more or less as is (i.e., certainly with any new bug fixes or other necessary corrections and improvements, but without specific mandatory to implement feature description in those drafts). Please respond to the list with your recommendations for these two courses of action. Regards Marshall & Danny
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