RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts

"SZELA, MATEUSZ W (MATT), ATTLABS" <mszela@att.com> Thu, 09 October 2008 16:16 UTC

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Subject: RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
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From: "SZELA, MATEUSZ W (MATT), ATTLABS" <mszela@att.com>
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>, l3vpn@ietf.org
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 Marshall & Danny et al,

I do NOT SUPPORT this draft.

The proposed draft, does not consider the needs and requirements of
large Service Providers with huge MVPN deployed base that services
critical business customers.

The correct approach is to poll Service Providers, who use MVPN now,
first and agree on a set of requirements that consider the needs of the
SP and end customers.
The requirements must consider the needs of the Business Customers who
use large SP MVPN networks.


Tx,

Matt W. Szela
Director,
New Technology Product Dev. Eng.
AT&T Laboratories
mszela@att.com
v: 732-420-6828
c: 732-208-5341

-----Original Message-----
From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of Marshall Eubanks
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:04 AM
To: l3vpn@ietf.org
Cc: Ross Callon
Subject: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts 

This email starts a 3 week call for input, to expire October 23, 2008,  
for the following steps:

1.) To accept draft-morin-l3vpn-mvpn-considerations-03 as a working
group document;  and

2.) To turn this document into a requirements draft, with mandatory to
implement features for an interoperable implementation. The authors
have indicated that they are willing to do this.

Our intention is, if this approach is accepted, to then begin WG last
call to submit to the IESG for publication:

draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast
draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp

We expect that these two documents will be submitted more or less as is
(i.e., certainly with any new bug fixes or other necessary corrections  
and
improvements, but without specific mandatory to implement feature
description in those drafts).

Please respond to the list with your recommendations for these two
courses of action.

Regards
Marshall & Danny