RE: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts

[Thomas Morin <[e-mail]>]

RAMSAROOP, JEEWAN P, ATTLABS :
>
> How does accepting of Morin's draft improve the profitability of the
> current VPN/mVPN service?

It is not exactly the question asked today, but if you understand why
standards are useful and that all solutions to a problem do not
necessarily have the same efficiency, then I think you'll find an answer
by yourself.

-Thomas



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> Of Yakov Rekhter
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:08 PM
> To: RAMACHANDRAN, PRASANNA, ATTOPS
> Cc: Ross Callon; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts 
> 
> Prasanna,
> 
> > I vote NO.
> > 
> > Being in AT&T Advanced Tier support group and having supported the 
> > MVPN core for the last 2 years, I can clearly say that we need a 
> > solution such as PIM-BiDir that can reduce the number of multicast 
> > states in the PEs to be able to scale the Groups X Sources x OILs
> explosion for our
> > very large Enterprise customers.   We definitely do not want to tweak
> a
> > crucial protocol like BGP of which our scale is 2 Million VPNV4 routes
> 
> > in the US alone.
> 
> On the subject of "we definitely do not want to tweak", I'd like to
> remind you that during the early days of 2547 VPNs some of its opponents
> were saying that they are against 2547 VPNs because they do not want to
> "tweak" such a crucial protocol as BGP to carry VPNv4 routes.
> 
> Today AT&T has "2 million VPNv4 routes in the US alone" all carried in
> BGP, and a successful 2547 VPN service. None of this would be possible
> if we would not tweak BGP.
> 
> Yakov.