Re: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
"Paul Wall" <pauldotwall@gmail.com> Fri, 10 October 2008 17:51 UTC
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:51:51 -0400
From: Paul Wall <pauldotwall@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts
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I'm not sure this draft is worth advancing either. In fact, I'm not sure it's worth the paper it's printed on. Drive Slow, Paul Wall On 10/9/08, SZELA, MATEUSZ W (MATT), ATTLABS <mszela@att.com> wrote: > Marshall & Danny et al, > > I do NOT SUPPORT this draft. > > The proposed draft, does not consider the needs and requirements of > large Service Providers with huge MVPN deployed base that services > critical business customers. > > The correct approach is to poll Service Providers, who use MVPN now, > first and agree on a set of requirements that consider the needs of the > SP and end customers. > The requirements must consider the needs of the Business Customers who > use large SP MVPN networks. > > > Tx, > > Matt W. Szela > Director, > New Technology Product Dev. Eng. > AT&T Laboratories > mszela@att.com > v: 732-420-6828 > c: 732-208-5341 > > -----Original Message----- > From: l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:l3vpn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 10:04 AM > To: l3vpn@ietf.org > Cc: Ross Callon > Subject: Advancing the Protocol and Morin Drafts > > This email starts a 3 week call for input, to expire October 23, 2008, > for the following steps: > > 1.) To accept draft-morin-l3vpn-mvpn-considerations-03 as a working > group document; and > > 2.) To turn this document into a requirements draft, with mandatory to > implement features for an interoperable implementation. The authors > have indicated that they are willing to do this. > > Our intention is, if this approach is accepted, to then begin WG last > call to submit to the IESG for publication: > > draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast > draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp > > We expect that these two documents will be submitted more or less as is > (i.e., certainly with any new bug fixes or other necessary corrections > and > improvements, but without specific mandatory to implement feature > description in those drafts). > > Please respond to the list with your recommendations for these two > courses of action. > > Regards > Marshall & Danny > >
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