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Re: [Lake] Ways forward on MTI cipher suite text

John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com> Tue, 25 January 2022 08:26 UTC

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From: John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
To: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
CC: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "lake@ietf.org" <lake@ietf.org>, Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [Lake] Ways forward on MTI cipher suite text
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Hi,

It would be good if the chairs change the title in any slides tomorrow from “MTI cipher suite” to “cipher suite compliance requirements”. MTI cipher suite is just one of the options.


We recently changes the name of the section from “Mandatory-to-Implement Compliance Requirements” to just “Compliance Requirements” as it also contains a lot of “MAY”.

John

From: Lake <lake-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 25 January 2022 at 01:55
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, lake@ietf.org <lake@ietf.org>, Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
Subject: Re: [Lake] Ways forward on MTI cipher suite text
Hi,

+1 to Carsten's response.

Cheers,
- Ira


On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:34 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org<mailto:cabo@tzi.org>> wrote:
On 25. Jan 2022, at 01:16, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie<mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote:
>
> you can't *live with*

I should probably say that I can’t live with an RFC 6919 “MUST (BUT WE KNOW YOU WON'T)”.

We need to be realistic in our mandates.

"At least one out of 0..3" would be realistic.

(The value of an MTI for a component that goes into other standards before becoming a product is also limited — The MTIs in this case should be in the system standards, not in the component.)

Grüße, Carsten

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