Re: [Lake] Credentials, Trust, Authentication, and Authorization

Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> Tue, 07 February 2023 18:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lake] Credentials, Trust, Authentication, and Authorization
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Thanks, Carsten!

Yes, it is about "trusting credentials". Maybe the full expression 
"trusting authentication credentials" creates confusion.

I can see the relation with authorization. When you say "previous 
authentication identity", do you refer to an entity that vouches for an 
authentication credential to be acceptable for a peer that receives it 
as new during EDHOC?

If so, different trust models can reflect different previous 
authentication identities and what they are expected to do. This can 
include the trusted entity that pre-provides an EDHOC peer with the 
authentication credential to trust, or instead with at least a 
corresponding identifier.

Best,
/Marco

On 2023-02-07 18:56, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> In Marco’s presentation today, I was a bit confused by this discussion focusing on authentication, when it really is about “trusting credentials”, which is a matter of authorization (is a new authentication identity authorized to speak for a previous authentication identity?).
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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