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Re: [Lake] LoRaWAN use case; Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-lake-reqs-01

Jesus Sanchez Gomez <jesus.sanchez4@um.es> Fri, 03 April 2020 14:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lake] LoRaWAN use case; Re: WGLC for draft-ietf-lake-reqs-01
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Hello Dominique, all,

I think that it would be a nice addition to the document to consider the 
reality of commercially available LoRaWAN certified products' behaviour 
for EU (e.g. Microchip's RN2483, all the microphython compatible ones, 
LMiC).

I'm currently researching popular LoRaWAN certified products' datasheets 
trying to gather more information on this matter.

As the ETSI states, the 36 continuous burst is possible (considering 
RX1_delay, and RX1/RX2 windows of Class A) in theory.
However, expecting that all LoRaWAN modules are going to implement such 
functionality is uncertain AFAIK. Yo previously mentioned this in one of 
your recent messages.

Please, would you kindly provide a few names of LoRaWAN commercially 
available modules, I will take a look at how those manage said 36 
seconds continuous burst.

Another thing to consider is the configuration of optional sub-bands 
with their respective duty-cycle, that would further increase the amount 
of data that you can send in a short period of time.

Best Regards,

-- 
Jesús Sánchez Gómez
Contratado predoctoral // Phd Student. Fundación Séneca. Comunidad Autónoma de la Región de Murcia
+34 868 88 96 74
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jesus.sanchez4@um.es
Department of Information and Communication Engineering
Faculty of Computer Science
University of Murcia
30100 Murcia, Spain

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