Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-edhoc - respond by June 22
Shahid Raza <aazaan@gmail.com> Mon, 22 June 2020 21:17 UTC
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 23:17:31 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-edhoc - respond by June 22
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A strong +1 for adoption. It's been discussed repeatedly and has shown by empirical numbers that OSCORE and EDHOC are lightweight and better-suited for IoT use cases. Best, Shahid Director of Cybersecurity at RISE On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 8:50 AM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-22, at 07:54, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> > wrote: > > > > researchers on this list to get excited about introducing more solutions > > Right, thank you for reminding me that I still have to reply. > > I’m quite happy that EDHOC has caused CTLS to emerge. That will certainly > cause some fragmentation, but it is a step long overdue for TLS/DTLS. I > believe we need to continue working on creating the environment that will > lead to CTLS actually getting completed. I don’t mind if Hannes calls this > environment “getting excited”; creating mindshare is often how technology > progresses. > > I don’t think that CTLS obviates the need for EDHOC, for reasons that > should by now well-expressed inside and outside this mailing list. > So I am in favor of adopting draft-selander-lake-edhoc as a working group > document of LAKE. > > I’d make some meta-comments on design for choice, but those would just > lead to more unneeded discussion. Can choice damage the Internet or its > applications? It sure can. Perspectives on this differ, and few people > will manage to control the influence on this perspective from their desire > for a specific outcome. Competition has already managed to significantly > improve both sides. Enough said. > > Grüße, Carsten > > -- > Lake mailing list > Lake@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lake >
- [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Dan Garcia
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Eduardo Ingles (UM)
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Disch
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Laurent Toutain
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Timothy Claeys
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karl Norrman
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Rikard Höglund
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Marco Tiloca
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… sandoche Balakrichenan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Jesus Sanchez-Gomez
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Brendan Moran
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Shahid Raza
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Sean Turner
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Rene Struik
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Disch