Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments
Christian Amsüss <christian@amsuess.com> Wed, 11 September 2019 12:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments
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Hello Ben, On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 11:56:54PM -0500, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > the IESG and IAB need to be able to gauge the level of community > support for and interest in the proposed work. The proposed charter looks suitable to produce a document that I'll want to implement. Rich does have a good point about "unnecessarily sacrificing security properties", especially as the Charter will be the entry point for first impressions to people outside the WG that might have unwarranted concerns about constraints leading to less than state of the art cipher suites; a half-sentence on that would help with impressions, but is probably not necessary for the work based on the charter. Best regards Christian -- You don't become great by trying to be great. You become great by wanting to do something, and then doing it so hard that you become great in the process. -- Marie Curie (as quoted by Randall Munroe)
- [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Michael Richardson
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Francesca Palombini
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Marco Tiloca
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Salz, Rich
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments ivaylo petrov
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Dan Garcia
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Salz, Rich
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Antonio Skarmeta
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Lake] [EXTERNAL] Re: Lake charter call for c… Damm, Benjamin
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Salz, Rich
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Rene Struik
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Lake charter call for comments Rene Struik
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Rene Struik
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Göran Selander