Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-edhoc - respond by June 22

Martin Disch <martindisch@gmail.com> Tue, 07 July 2020 16:06 UTC

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From: Martin Disch <martindisch@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 18:06:16 +0200
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Hi Göran,

Thanks for following up on this. Yes, in my opinion expanding on the
COSE constructs would be helpful. But I also sympathize with not
wanting to duplicate what is already defined in another RFC (and
possibly getting it wrong, as Carsten points out). Considering that
there are quite a few implementers already and besides mine you have
only received one other similar comment, maybe this isn't an issue for
a meaningful majority.

In any case, the draft has made great strides already in terms of
accessibility and is in a good state now, so I don't see improvements
in this area as an absolute necessity.

Kind regards,

Martin