Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-edhoc - respond by June 22
Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net> Sun, 21 June 2020 23:52 UTC
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:51:38 -0700
From: Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>
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Subject: Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-edhoc - respond by June 22
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I do not support adoption. The charter of this WG states: draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe is a candidate starting point for the LAKE produced by the WG. Any work available from TLS or other WGs that satisfies the determined requirements will also be evaluated for suitability, but does not preclude the WG from freely selecting its preferred LAKE for OSCORE. Unless I missed it, work from TLS was not seriously evaluated for suitability. In fact, it seems we jumped right over it and landed on draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe. The cTLS authors demonstrated that this variant of the protocol can indeed meet the requirements set out in draft-ietf-lake-reqs-04, without compromising any of the benefits that the TLS ecosystem brings to the table. (Support for different server authentication modes, for example, is something TLS is well equipped to support.) I understand that the TLS WG adopted cTLS and will continue its development there. However, that does not seem relevant for what this WG chooses. By analogy, this would be similar to QUIC developing its own key exchange protocol since UDP is just slightly different from TCP. Clearly, that was not the path chosen, and I think it would be a mistake to do that here without seriously considering cTLS. Best, Chris On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Jesus Sanchez-Gomez wrote: > Hello All, > > I support the adoption of this document. > > I've worked with the technology in research projects/papers yielding > good results. > > There are several use cases where this technology is a good solution for > different research projects at the University of Murcia and Odin Solutions. > > While I've practical experience with this technology working > specifically in LoRaWAN, its design makes it a good fit for any > constrained radio link/LPWAN. > > Also, it has potential to be implemented beyond LPWANs, like more > generic IoT scenarios with large scalability. > > Best Regards, > > > -- > Jesús Sánchez Gómez > Contratado predoctoral // Phd Student. Fundación Séneca. Comunidad > Autónoma de la Región de Murcia > +34 868 88 96 74 > +34 635 33 26 09 > jesus.sanchez4@um.es > Department of Information and Communication Engineering > Faculty of Computer Science > University of Murcia > 30100 Murcia, Spain > > -- > Lake mailing list > Lake@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lake >
- [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-lake-… Mališa Vučinić
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christian Amsüss
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Dan Garcia
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Eduardo Ingles (UM)
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Disch
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Laurent Toutain
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Timothy Claeys
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karl Norrman
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Rikard Höglund
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Marco Tiloca
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… sandoche Balakrichenan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Jesus Sanchez-Gomez
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Melinda Shore
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Brendan Moran
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Shahid Raza
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Sean Turner
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Rene Struik
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Karthik Bhargavan
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Robert Cragie
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Blomqvist, Peter
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Lake] Call for adoption for draft-selander-l… Martin Disch