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Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> Tue, 30 September 2025 16:53 UTC

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From: Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se>
To: Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr>, "lake@ietf.org" <lake@ietf.org>
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Hi Mališa, Renzo, and all,

Please see below some comments from my side.

Best,
/Marco


=== Scope ===

* s/post-quantum resistant/quantum-resistant

* Why removing the third bullet point about work on status verification of credentials? Sorry if I have missed any previous discussion about it.

* s/definition of a well-known application profile/definition of well-known application profiles

  The document draft-ietf-lake-app-profiles [1] is in fact defining a set of initial, well-known EDHOC application profiles, as first to be added to the new IANA registry "EDHOC Application Profiles".


=== Milestones ===

* s/post-quantum resistant/quantum-resistant

* The milestone about draft-ietf-lake-app-profiles [1] says "as Informational RFC", but it should say "as Proposed Standard".

  That has been the intended status from the start and it's also consistent with the current text of the second from last paragraph in the "Scope" section:

  > The working group will also work on a Standard Track means for coordinating the use and discovery of EDHOC application profiles, ...

* On the last milestone for December 2026, maybe it's better to say "methods" instead of "method", as multiple EDHOC methods might be defined and registered even though by a single document.

* Also on the last milestone for December 2026, arguably it does not cover the document draft-spm-lake-pqsuites.

  Since the new second paragraph in the "Scope" section also mentions work on new PQ cipher suites (that this document does carry out), it looks like one more milestone is needed as related to draft-spm-lake-pqsuites.


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lake-app-profiles/


Marco Tiloca
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From: Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 3:55 PM
To: lake@ietf.org <lake@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lake] LAKE proposed charter

Hi all,

Renzo and I worked on the text of the new LAKE charter, taking into account the discussions we had during and after the IETF 123 meeting in Madrid.

You can find the proposed text at the following link:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n0SmboQyTO7M3EJrvLGhNMdcqrm5HKgIob7i17jhuVo/edit?usp=sharing

In comparison to the current charter (-02), non-editorial text is in red. Please come back to us on the list with any feedback regarding the proposed charter. The deadline for feedback is Friday, 3-October-2025, AoE.

Renzo and Mališa

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