Re: [Lake] Call for adoption of draft-selander-lake-traces

Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Sat, 30 October 2021 01:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lake] Call for adoption of draft-selander-lake-traces
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Hi! I definitely support adoption.

As far as RFC sure, really on two conditions: 1) multiple implementations very that the example are “right”, and 2) it is informational; see S/MIME Examples (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4134/).

I will defer on scope, but whatever examples you pick make sure they will stand up to the test of time because examples often end up haunting you 10 years down the road ;)

spt

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 06:52, Mališa Vučinić <malisa.vucinic@inria.fr> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> As discussed during the IETF-111 meeting and the last interim, this email triggers a 2-week call for adoption of draft-selander-lake-traces-01. The draft contains the EDHOC test vectors, previously part of draft-ietf-lake-edhoc. 
> 
> We are seeking the working group input on the following points:
> - Whether draft-selander-lake-traces should be adopted as a working group item, and if yes:
> - Whether this draft should be published as an RFC
> - What should be the scope of the document? The current version of the draft covers authentication methods 0 (signature - signature) and 3 (static DH - static DH). Should the draft cover additional methods and / or additional intermediary values? Anything else deemed useful from the implementers point of view?
> 
> Please provide your comments by November 1st, 2021.
> 
> Mališa and Stephen
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