Re: [Lake] WGLC for draft-ietf-lake-reqs-01

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 24 February 2020 19:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lake] WGLC for draft-ietf-lake-reqs-01
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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
    > #5. 2.2: "the AKE must support different schemes for
    > transporting and identifying credentials, including those
    > identified in Section 2 of [I-D.ietf-cose-x509]." I seem to
    > recall there being some (possibly now expired) IPR in that
    > space. It might be worth s/including/such as/ there to give
    > some wriggle room in case one of those methods were still
    > encumbered.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-cose-x509
I can't find any IPR on this.
I prefer to use the UDF: scheme that mathmesh proposes over the x5u mechanism.

    > - 2.10: (In somewhat self-aggrandising mode:-) a reference
    > to RFC8376 might provide some more useful background here.

    > - refs: the URL for the PDF referenced by [LwM2M] is an
    > http-schemed URL. Better to use https.

    > - refs: [FairHair] - the https URL here generates a cert
    > error (wrong name in some URL shortener or something)

It's moved to:
     https://openconnectivity.org/developer/specifications/fairhair

seems an odd thing for fairhair to do.

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