Re: [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan
Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Thu, 01 December 2022 17:00 UTC
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From: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Subject: Re: [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan
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Sorry if I’ve missed this in another email, but is the plan to close the WG (not the list) once EDHOC is published as an RFC? spt > On Nov 29, 2022, at 16:43, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > Signed PGP part > > Hi all, > > This is to confirm the plan for finishing edhoc as was agreed > at IETF 115, but now with a few more concrete steps having > been taken, so more detail "filled in"... > > Just to reprise the overall process here: > > - We're done with WGLC but have a few things to finalise (see > below); once those are handled (hopefully by Monday) the > chairs plan to hit the "publication requested" button which > means asking our area director (AD) to proceed towards an > IETF last call > - Our AD (Paul) will likely want to do his own review as well > before he starts that IETF last call, and there can be a > bit of delay on that depending how busy the AD happens to > be at the time (they really do lead busy lives:-) > - IETF last call (LC) is a two week period where IETF > participants who've not been engaged with the WG are > invited to comment. (Such comments are a good thing that > often improve drafts a lot or catch non-obvious things) > - When IETF LC spans a holiday period, those are often > extended to 4 weeks or so (because we do want to get those > comments) > - In parallel, we'll start getting directorate reviews (i.e. > secdir review etc) > - Once all IETF LC comments etc are handled then we'll be > asking our AD to put the draft on an IESG agenda for > approval, generating more IESG comments we'll need to > handle, after which it'll head to the RFC editor queue > and then it'll pop out as an RFC a couple of months > later > > So there's a way to go, but we're near the end of the WG's > work on edhoc nonetheless as all those steps tend to take > a *lot* less time than things have taken so far. > > So, the immediate specifics: > > Draft-18 [1] should include all the WGLC comment resolutions > as agreed at IETF 115 and/or discussed subsequently on the > list or in github. Please review the diff [2] to check that > the editors have done that correctly in your view. > > We also agreed at IETF 115 to give some people a chance to > propose a PR with a state machine description. We now have > that at [3] and need to decide to include it as an appendix > (so that'd go in a draft-19) or to leave that out for now > and maybe include it in another draft (such as [4]). The > sense of the WG I think was to include it if it's clearly > correct but leave it out for now if we're not sure. Let's > try decide that by the end of week, (before the end of > Dec 4th), so please say if you'd like that PR merged or not. > (If there's ambiguity that'd take a while to fix, I'd ask > you to consider suggesting we omit it rather than wait, > my reasoning for that being that if we wait, other stuff > will turn up that needs more discussing...;-) > > Meanwhile, please do also take the opportunity to do more > reviews of [1] - we can still treat any/all suggestions as > IETF last call comments. (But please don't re-raise any > issues already resolved in the WG.) > > Mališa will be acting as document shepherd, so he'll be > helping our capable authors negotiate the above steps. I'll > be doing another chair-review of the draft before Monday > as well. (Any nits from that can be handled during or > after IETF LC though.) > > With a bit of luck we may get IETF LC done by the very > early new year, but that depends on our AD's queue and > his doing his own review of the draft, so we'll have to > wait and see how the timing goes. > > Now... isn't that all very simple? :-) > > Cheers, > Stephen. > > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lake-edhoc-18 > [2] https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-lake-edhoc-17&url2=draft-ietf-lake-edhoc-18&difftype=--html > [3] https://github.com/lake-wg/edhoc/pull/373 > [4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lake-traces/ > <OpenPGP_0x5AB2FAF17B172BEA.asc> > >
- [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan Sean Turner
- Re: [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] edhoc end game: detailed plan Stephen Farrell
- [Lake] EDHOC state machine (Was: edhoc end game: … Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] EDHOC state machine (Was: edhoc end ga… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Lake] EDHOC state machine (Was: edhoc end ga… John Mattsson
- Re: [Lake] EDHOC state machine (Was: edhoc end ga… Göran Selander
- Re: [Lake] EDHOC state machine (Was: edhoc end ga… supjps-ietf