Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Keith Moore <> Mon, 03 October 2022 21:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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On 10/3/22 13:59, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

> I really can't see what is supposed to be implausible about the notion 
> that nation states operate information engagement units. Spies spend 
> their time spying and remarkably little of that is 'espionage'.
> Throwing out spurious conspiracy theories to muddy the waters to 
> conceal a real one is all part of the model.
> When a large group of otherwise rational people start gibbering 
> irrational conspiracy theories about alien lizard people, high ranking 
> politicians harvesting adrenochrome, etc. etc. it is natural to ask 
> where these ideas are coming from and why they are not being rejected 
> as the obvious nonsense they are. The people promoting those theories 
> are the exact same people promoting the white replacement theory 
> garbage you have been peddling.
> I am not talking about lizard people or anything of the sort.

I haven't tried to follow the references in PHB's email to see whether 
he's actually established a signal path.   But it's well known that 
several nation-states employ people to spread not only propaganda, but 
disinformation, and even conflicting disinformation with the goal of 
keeping an adversary's population confused and/or working at cross 
purposes with itself.  I've certainly seen trolls on FB and LI who were 
fairly transparently doing that.  So I can't dismiss PHB's statement 

(of course, just because some kind of information was spread by a 
state-supported troll doesn't mean it's wrong or entirely wrong. every 
good lie is aided by adding a bit of truth.)