Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> Thu, 06 October 2022 17:42 UTC

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From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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> On 10/06/2022 1:23 PM EDT Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:18 AM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > > On 10/06/2022 9:35 AM EDT Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Moderators, can you please keep this on topic for the last-call list.
> > This
> > > is not relevant to the PR-Action.
> > >
> > > Incidentally, Jay Daley is not the "leader of the IETF'. If the IETF
> > could
> > > be said to have a leader, it would be the IETF Chair, which Jay is not.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yes Jay Daley is the Executive Director of the IETF.  Can he/did he
> > initiate this PR action?  I think it's important to know the initiating
> > area director in something as serious as this.
> >
> 
> It seems that perhaps you don't understand the IETF structure. You might
> find RFC 8711 useful in this context:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8711.html
> 
> Jay is the Executive Director of the IETF LLC, which has nothing to do with
> being an Area Director. He does not sit on the IESG and cannot initiate a
> PR Action.
> 
> -Ekr


See, this just goes to show how little I know about the IETF.  I guess someone might have to read 8710 RFCs to get to that one.  I'm still in the four thousands.