Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Fri, 07 October 2022 19:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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And, as occurred in this case, they should be talked to about whether 
they understand the problem and are willing to change their behavior.  
If not, and if they demonstrate they are unwilling to modify their 
behavior, then we as a community are obliged to take explicit steps to 
prevent the bad behavior.

Yours,

Joel

On 10/7/2022 3:32 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 07, 2022 at 04:38:30PM +0100, Jay Daley wrote:
>>> Would you care to restate it in terms of his actions and
>>> behavior rather than his intentions?
>> My statement above is indeed a statement of actions and behaviour.
>> It is an objective fact that his post had no content that was not
>> ridicule.  My statement is therefore, to use a phrase from your
>> postscript, based solely on observable behaviour and nothing else.
>>
>> You or others might wish to speculate on a motive not inherent in
>> the text that somehow alters the seriousness of that post, but I
>> don’t think that would be appropriate for me to do when making
>> moderation decisions.
> I have to agree with Jay here.  If someone introduces race into a
> discussion about masking, that should be raising all sorts of red
> flags.  Whether it is because that person doesn't have the awareness
> about why that might not be a good thing to do, or was doing it with
> malice aforethought, IMHO, doesn't matter.  It has the potential of
> being highly divisive, and trolling, and again, if someone can't
> figure that out, then maybe their ability to post should be restricted
> for a time, until they can figure that out.
>
> 					- Ted
>