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Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Tue, 11 October 2022 19:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]
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On 10/11/22 14:24, Salz, Rich wrote:

>   * Bullies always targeted people who were less powerful than
>     themselves, and generally also people who didn't have many friends
>     who would come to their aid.
>
> People who they **believe** are less powerful and whom they 
> **believe** have no allies.
>
> Popular media, at least in the US, is full of examples where that 
> belief turned out to be wrong.
>
Well, sure.  Bullies do/did sometimes get their comeuppance.   I don't 
think that suddenly made them not be bullies, though.
>
> That distinction is important, because in email everyone looks the 
> same. Or, “nobody knows you’re a dog.”
>
Well, there are perceptions of relative power and status even over email.

But I really don't know how much any of this figures into the modern use 
of the word "bullying".

Keith

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