Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-10

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 22 October 2022 13:26 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Antoni Przygienda <prz@juniper.net>, "secdir@ietf.org" <secdir@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-10
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Tony,

I believe those changes will address my comments.  If I don’t get around to updating my review, please accept this email as “proof” :)

From: Antoni Przygienda <prz@juniper.net>
Date: Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-10

Rich, thanks for comments


  1.  I will explain in glossary quickly that L1 and L2 pertains to ISIS concepts
  2.  Paragraph moved before figure
  3.  Paragraph 1 and 2 talk about different tunnel types hence I kept it separate. I pointed out the tunnel type.


  *   Tony

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Subject: Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-10
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Reviewer: Rich Salz
Review result: Has Nits

I am a routing naïf and do not have a lot of time these days. I hope this
review is still useful, anyway.

The glossary was very helpful.  I still don't have a clear understanding of L1
and L2.

The picture is a tour de force.  The description "Figure 1 is an example..."
paragraph should be moved before the picture, not directly after it.

Sections 6 and 7 indicate, to me, that this document is comprehensive and
informed by real-world concerns.

Sec 9, Security Considerations.
This is where I did the most careful reading.
"If an attacker should be able..."  s/should be able/can/
s/could be in most extreme case/could be in THE most extreme case/
It was a bit surprising to me to see the same sentence at the end of both
paragraph 1 and paragraph 2.  Maybe remove them and move them to the start of
paragraph 3.

I think the risks are well-described, and the importance to preventing is made.
Is it possible to mitigate the damage if a risk occurs?  "No" is a reasonable
answer.



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