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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 11 October 2022 03:36 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 20:36:00 -0700
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To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Cc: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "last-call@ietf.org" <last-call@ietf.org>, "draft-knodel-e2ee-definition@ietf.org" <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition@ietf.org>, "paul.wouters@aiven.io" <paul.wouters@aiven.io>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt> (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC
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Thanks for the clarification, Paul! Who among us hasn't pushed the wrong
datatracker button?

-Ekr

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:06 PM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, Salz, Rich wrote:
>
> > Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-07.txt>
> >     (Definition of End-to-end Encryption) to Informational RFC
>
> My apologies for the confusion. This document is not in Last Call yet. I
> pressed some wrong buttons in the datatracker.
>
> > In response to Paul bringing the draft up, there were several major
> concerns raised. There was no feedback from the author, let alone no new
> draft that
> > addressed any of the issues.  There is also no explanation why Paul
> brought it up, although there was the implication that it was being
> considered as
> > AD-sponsored. Is that correct? If so, why is it now being considered as
> an inidividual submission?
>
> I am AD sponsoring it, but that does mean it needs IETF consensus. That
> is why I brought it up for discussion on the saag list. There is clearly
> no consensus yet, and I attempted to put the document into the AD
> followup state, while accidentally causing an IETF Last Call.
>
> Sorry about the confusion,
>
> Paul
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