Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]

[Toerless Eckert <[e-mail]>]

On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 05:36:44PM +0200, Eliot Lear wrote:
> My issue with BCP 83 has to
> do with steps 2, 3, and 5 of the process.  2 and 3 are not necessary, and
> the community needn't make a decision about an individual.  It's a poor use
> of our time, and subjects the individual to humiliation.
>
>  We should stop that.

I support that suggestion.

The community review/comment looks also strange to me for the following points:

- There is no clear explicit list of what is in evidence, instead we are asked to find that
  evidence ourselves from long mailing lists, not knowing how far back judgements where made.

- There are references made to unreasonable behavior in private conversation, which we can not vet,
  and drafts that have been completely removed, so we can not vet those either (now).

- To me, this "discussion" looks a lot like a misguided public trial with an unclear separation between
  accusers and judges, but without any clear assigned defender.

IMHO all that makes those process steps overall more hurtfull to the reputation of the IETF than helpfull,

Toerless

> 
> Eliot
> 
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