Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 05 October 2022 03:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]
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Kjetil,

On 05-Oct-22 10:42, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
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> This BCP is just one more step towards this splintering.

This BCP was approved and published in 2004, and has been applied
very rarely. There were two cases in early 2006, and one in May 2019.
(https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/posting-rights-actions/)

I was IETF Chair at the time of the first two, and I can assure you
it was a very time consuming and worrying responsibility, and the
number of private insults I received was considerable.

I think uncivil and/or divisive language has been our problem,
not the very occasional PR actions in response.

Regards,
    Brian Carpenter