Re: [Last-Call] Fwd: OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Wed, 12 October 2022 18:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Fwd: OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]
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On 10/12/22 10:35 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
>
>>       From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
>>       Date: October 12, 2022 at 04:11:37 EDT
>>       To: last-call@ietf.org
>>       Subject: Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 
>> 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]
>
>>         I just checked my folders. I was outed and 'fessed up on 1 
>> April almost
>>       5 hours before Paul's "you should be culled" email that he used 
>> to tie me
>>       to "Les White".
>
> Dan,
>
> I did not say YOU should be culled. I said:
>
>     Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 at 9:53 AM
>     From: "Paul Wouters" <paul@nohats.ca>
>     To: les.white@engineer.com
>     Subject: The IETF would be better of without you
>
>     Your behaviour is exactly the type of libertarian nonsense that needs
>     to be culled at the IETF.
>
>     Paul
>
> I was clearly talking about your behaviour needing culling, not your
> physical person. Putting it in quotes, or calling it humor or sarcasm
> tomorrow is not a valid defense for making incorrect statements about me.

   I stand corrected!

   "to cull" can mean to glean or gather but since you called my behavior
nonsense it seems like you want to get rid of it, so I'm thinking you meant
the other meaning, namely, to slaughter and remove from the herd (the
herd being in this case the IETF). Now, it seems hypocritical to have
complaints of being bullied in one email when that sort of violent language
against someone else is being used in another.

   Note here that I'm not making comments about *you*, it's about what
you wrote. See I've figured out how this works. It's OK to say that an 
email
is <pick your pejorative> because it's not saying the person who wrote
the email is <pick your pejorative>.

   Dan.

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