Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa-15.txt> (Special Use Domain Name 'ipv4only.arpa') to Proposed Standard

Stuart Cheshire <cheshire@apple.com> Sat, 25 January 2020 01:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa-15.txt> (Special Use Domain Name 'ipv4only.arpa') to Proposed Standard
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On 21 Jan 2020, at 01:23, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> wrote:

> As I already indicated several times, I think this is needed and agree with this document. In fact, I've included a reference to this document in RFC8683.

Thanks for your support.

> Just a minor point regarding the abstract. I think it should be a single paragraph, and moving most of the text to the intro (I've been told this a couple of time with my own documents).

Fair suggestion. I’ll do this if no one else disagrees. Feel free to send me suggested text if you like.

> In Section 4.1, I think could also include a reference to DNS privacy/encryption. In RFC8683 I'm calling all this "foreign DNS" (see section 4.4).

Can you send the specific text you’re suggesting?

> Relevant to this document see also section 4.1.1 in RFC8683 and the IANA Consideration section that I had in the version before the RFC8683:
> 
> 8.  IANA Considerations
> 
>   This document does not have any new specific IANA considerations.
> 
>   Note: This section is assuming that https://www.rfc-
>   editor.org/errata/eid5152 is resolved, otherwise, this section may
>   include the required text to resolve the issue.
> 
>   Alternatively, this could be fixed also by
>   [I-D.cheshire-sudn-ipv4only-dot-arpa].
> 
> So, may be is time to also clear the errata, indicating that it is fixed by this document?

I agree. Do others agree that this new document addresses the RFC 7050 erratum listed below?

<https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5152>

If so, we should request the RFC Errata to mark this erratum as resolved by this new document.

Stuart Cheshire