Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 05 October 2022 02:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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On 10/4/22 22:32, Adam Roach wrote:

>
> I'm saying this as a fellow participant, as I clearly left behind any 
> vestiges of authority I have in this organization some while ago. I 
> hope you take it in the spirit in which it is intended.
>
> At the moment, your messages constitute more than 1 in every 5 
> messages in this thread, and they're conveying ever diminishing 
> information about your position on the action. I know you're 
> formulating a longer, structured response to this Last Call, and I 
> imagine that the IESG looks forward to reading that input as part of 
> its evaluation. In the meanwhile, it would make room for others to 
> digest the contents of this thread and formulate their own opinions 
> and responses if it were not quite so high volume. No one else has the 
> power to single-handledly reduce the volume of this thread by over 
> 20%, so I'm imploring you -- as the one person in the unique position 
> to do so -- that you do. 

I think I understand you.  It's an inherent problem with the way we do 
discussions that a crowd can effectively silence objections from a 
minority by drowning them out with messages.   I simply do not agree 
that it's the minority's job to silence themselves so that the crowd can 
drown them out.

I will, however, try to avoid repeating myself if I've already raised 
the same objection.

Keith