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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 25 January 2020 02:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt> (IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough Consensus) to Best Current Practice
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On 25-Jan-20 15:08, Rob Sayre wrote:
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> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:03 PM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 25-Jan-20 14:48, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>     ...
>     >>     However, there are a bunch of ways for the IESG to block publication of IRTF or Independent Stream documents given in RFC 5742.
>     >
>     >
>     > This seems off topic for this document, which, as noted above, only refers to the IETF stream.
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>     Also it's inaccurate. The IESG has no blocking power. The most the IESG can do is request the Independent Stream Editor not to publish a draft, or to request them to insert a specific IESG note, but the ISE has the final say. Similarly for IRTF drafts, where authority lies with the IRSG.
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> Has the IESG ever been crossed in this way? I've seen some RFCs with IESG disapproval notes, but nothing more.

You'd better ask that question on the rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org list.

    Brian

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