Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 06 October 2022 13:35 UTC

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Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2022 06:35:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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Moderators, can you please keep this on topic for the last-call list. This
is not relevant to the PR-Action.

Incidentally, Jay Daley is not the "leader of the IETF'. If the IETF could
be said to have a leader, it would be the IETF Chair, which Jay is not.

-Ekr


On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 4:05 AM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:

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> > On 10/06/2022 12:34 AM EDT Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/eNzvM5o6QvVKHjmqkyBMY_AxuaA/
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> So Jay Daley says:  "The alternative of wealthy, credentialed, white
> people not wishing to do that makes me wary that either they are racist, or
> sympathise with racists, or seek to diminish or ignore the historic impact
> of racism."
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> This is an extremely dangerous point of view for the leader of the IETF.
> He is basically saying that if you disagree with him or even have no
> interest in the efforts of the Terminology WG then you are a racist.  And
> based of his first sentence, it looks like he's looking for some
> retribution.  I now think Jay Daley is a racist.
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