Re: [Last-Call] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Sat, 25 January 2020 01:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt
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This document is specific to the IETF stream.  It has no effect on 
publishing dissenting documents on other streams (e.g. the Independent 
Stream).  It also makes no change on the discuss criteria, as those 
would have applied before, and after, approval of this document.

Yours,
Joel

On 1/24/2020 7:48 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Without any judgement, I wondered how this document relates to the 
> IESG's discuss criteria.[0]
> 
> In particular, this part: "Does this document represent an end run 
> around the IETF's working groups or its procedures?"
> 
> How does this document relate to this IESG procedure? Would publishing a 
> dissenting document on the independent stream constitute such an "end run"?
> 
> thanks,
> Rob
> 
> [0] https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/iesg-discuss-criteria/
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 10:31 AM <internet-drafts@ietf.org 
> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>     directories.
> 
> 
>              Title           : IETF Stream Documents Require IETF Rough
>     Consensus
>              Authors         : Joel M. Halpern
>                                Eric K. Rescorla
>              Filename        :
>     draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02.txt
>              Pages           : 4
>              Date            : 2020-01-21
> 
>     Abstract:
>         This document proposes that the IETF never publish any IETF stream
>         RFCs without IETF rough consensus.  This updates RFC 2026.
> 
> 
>     The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational/
> 
>     There are also htmlized versions available at:
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02
> 
>     A diff from the previous version is available at:
>     https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-consensusinformational-02
> 
> 
>     Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>     submission
>     until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org
>     <http://tools.ietf.org>.
> 
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