Re: [Last-Call] On satire, sarcasm, etc (was: Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins)

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Thu, 27 October 2022 22:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] On satire, sarcasm, etc (was: Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins)
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 3:39 PM Lloyd W <lloyd.wood=
40yahoo.co.uk@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
> the onus is not on the readers, but on the writer. it's very difficult to
> recognize poor writing as anything more than poor writing -- and a better
> writer would not have written those drafts.
>

Yes, and even though I agree with you here in general, an emdash—like this
one, should not have spaces surrounding it. I don't think the IETF
generally hosts great writing, so it's better to keep it simple.


>
> > The other is when people react to a message that they don't understand,
> by assuming bad intent.
>
> A bully claiming to use satire is still a bully. I think Dan's intent has
> been clear for years.
>

Yes, it's a 4chan argument. You are correct here.

thanks,
Rob