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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/0dRmWOrIlTZtsIcR4kNPvPYmvpI/


was pretty much the email that finally prompted the IESG to respond and finally do the PR action, so I'm surprised that it wasn't included in the IESG list.


Nevertheless, I look forward to not reading Keith's lengthy response attempting to exculpate Harkins.


Lloyd Wood
lloydwood@users.sourceforge.net






On Wednesday, 5 October 2022 at 12:28:26 GMT+11, Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> wrote: 





On 10/4/22 20:31, lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> Harkins told me he thought I had dementia.
>
> that is deliberate, it is insulting, it is malicious, and it is bullying.
>
> Stop making excuses for him.
For the purpose of this discussion, I'm confining my research to the 
messages cited in the Last Call announcement.   It's enough work to 
understand the context surrounding each of those messages, which IMO is 
vital to evaluating them, without trying to evaluate other messages and 
their contexts.  More generally, I'm not interested in participating in 
a fishing expedition to dig up dirt on anybody, and I don't think the 
Last Call or a PR-action should be treated as an invitation to do that.

I'm not saying your accusation is right or wrong, but I do suggest that 
maybe it's out of scope for this conversation.

Keith


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