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Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sun, 02 October 2022 19:09 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 12:08:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] OT: change BCP 83 [Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins]
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On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 7:27 AM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> I wonder if there's a correlation between such perceptions
> and the extent to which people partake in the usual online
> social networks that are reputedly quite toxic? I don't have
> accounts on any of those myself but wouldn't be surprised if
> perceptions of email traffic were affected by postings by the
> same folk, or different folk on similar topics, seen in other
> fora.
>

I would say "no way". Following IETF people on Twitter or something would
be pretty painful, unless you actually know them personally to some extent.

Ofer Inbar wrote the best way to look at toxicity I've seen recently:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/ZTiUvG9fOIR8o-LeaBGW0xYee9c/

That "whittling down" is what's at issue here, at least to me. If you think
the environment is unchanged, and you're still on the list, you still have
to admit he has a point.

thanks,
Rob

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