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To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02
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On 2022-09-19 17:56, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> I believe too that IPv6 fundamentally needs the capability to address LLA (address types) in applications.
> Maybe proposed is not the best way. Is it possible to hear alternatives from everybody who said "No"?

 > Eduard

I definitely agree with Edward here.

I remember that in an earlier round of discussions, Brian told me which 
browser supported the syntax and how to use it (I seem to remember it 
was for configuration of wireless boxes,...), and that made sense to me.

Looking at the current discussion, it seems that the 6MAN WG figured out 
what would work best for them, without really listening to the people 
working on the relevant applications (browsers). This should have been 
much more of a collaborative effort, with both sides ready to compromise.

To me, the questions are essentially:
- To the 6MAN WG: Would you be ready to go for another syntax (choice 3 
or 4 in Appendix A or variants thereof) if the browsers agreed to 
implement it?
- To the browsers: Would you ready to implement this feature if it came 
with a more compatible syntax?

Hope we can hear from both sides (multiple parties each) soon.

Regards,   Martin.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:33 AM
> To: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>; Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
> Cc: art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis.all@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02
> 
> Roy,
> 
> On 17-Sep-22 08:48, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>>> On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Martin Thomson via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
> 
> <snip>

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