Re: [Last-Call] On satire, sarcasm, etc (was: Re: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins)

"Bless, Roland (TM)" <> Thu, 27 October 2022 16:56 UTC

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this discussion is actually drifting away from an important
aspect. It is actually not about satire, sarcasm, first or second
language etc. It is about unprofessional behavior: there has been
numerous feedback on Dan's messages that people obviously found them
transgressing. Dan simply should have stopped continuing using satire,
sarcasm, but continued to deliberately write offending messages.
Sowing discord is unprofessional (as in the recent message here


On 27.10.22 at 17:09 Keith Moore wrote:
> On 10/27/22 09:36, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>> The IETF choses to do its work in English, though that choice is 
>> likewise not more "justified" than other choices, it's just  what the 
>> majority likes.  And we can likewise, as the IETF, choose to use a 
>> subset of English forms of communication, such that our style is most 
>> widely understood, and least likely to be misunderstood.
> Yes, we (the community) can make that choice.   But we have not (yet?) 
> made that choice, so it's currently unreasonable to sanction people for 
> using such techniques.
> (And if we do make that choice, the decision won't be made on this list.)
> Keith