Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-vn-association

Dhruv Dhody <dd@dhruvdhody.com> Tue, 25 October 2022 12:55 UTC

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From: Dhruv Dhody <dd@dhruvdhody.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 18:19:16 +0530
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To: tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-pce-vn-association
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Hi Tiru,

Now that the document is in the RFC Editor queue, I would caution against
making further updates in this document unless we have to.

This document just adds another association-type and the comments are more
of a generic nature. If the WG feels that any update is needed, it makes
sense to do that independently. More inline...

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 5:56 PM tirumal reddy <kondtir@gmail.com> wrote:

> Reviewer: Tirumaleswar Reddy
> Review result:  Ready with issues
>
> I apologize for missing the deadline for this review.
>
> This document relies on [RFC5440], [RFC8231], [RFC8281] and [RFC8697] for
> security considerations. RFC5440 discusses the use of TCP-MD5 (obsoleted),
> TCP Authentication Option and TLS 1.2. Further, RFC5440 refers to RFC7525
> for TLS recommendations.
>
> draft-ietf-pce-vn-association says use of TLS is recommended.
>
> My comments below:
>
> 1. Any specific reason for using "SHOULD" instead of using "MUST" for
> TLS. If TLS is not used in certain scenarios, how is a malicious PCEP
> speaker detected ?
>

The use of TCP-AO for instance.

2. Do you see any challenges encouraging the use of TLS 1.3 ?
>

It is a work in progress. See
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pceps-tls13/



> 3. You may want to make it clear that this document does not rely on
> TCP-MD5.
>

That is well established. See
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6952.html#section-2.5



> 4. If existing implementations are using TLS 1.2, I suggest referring to
> the recommendations in draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis instead of rfc7525. Please
> see Appendix A in draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis, it highlights the differences
> with rfc7525.
>
>
RFC 7525 will get obsoleted by the new RFC# assigned for the bis
eventually. We can also update RFC 8253 if needed. I dont think we should
bury this in this small extension though.

Thanks!
Dhruv



> Cheers,
> -Tiru
>