[Last-Call] Change of position: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 27 October 2022 04:25 UTC

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Subject: [Last-Call] Change of position: Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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I'd like to change my position on this. In a recent message, Dan acknowledges that using sarcasm or satire is problematic:
To my mind, given that Dan has been a significant technical contributor over many years, that is really all the community can ask for. I don't think the IETF would gain anything at this point by applying a PR Action, and would possibly lose future significant technical contributions.

    Brian Carpenter

On 01-Oct-22 10:06, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> I've had a filter in place that deletes mail from Dan Harkins automatically
> for some years, so I haven't been disturbed by most of their recent postings.
> But I think that this PR action is fully justified by their long record
> of uncivil and disruptive messages,
> Regards
>      Brian Carpenter
> On 30-Sep-22 05:15, IETF Chair wrote:
>> Following community feedback after various incidents, as documented below, the
>> IESG has initiated a posting rights (PR) action that would restrict the posting
>> rights of Dan Harkins, as per the procedures found in BCP 83 (RFC 3683).
>> Specifically, his posting privileges to these lists would be suspended:
>> * admin-discuss
>> * gendispatch
>> * ietf
>> * terminology
>> In the IESG's opinion, this individual has a history of sending emails that are
>> inconsistent with the IETF Guidelines for Conduct (RFC 7154) and thereby
>> "disrupt the consensus-driven process" (RFC 3683). Among these are contributions
>> that:
>> * Express racism in the form of denying, belittling, and ridiculing anti-racist
>>     sentiment and efforts
>> * Are rude and abusive, and often amount to insulting ridicule
>> (Links to examples of such emails sent to the lists above during the last two
>> years are provided at the end of this email.)
>> Multiple attempts have been made to enter into a private discussion with this
>> individual, both by IESG and community members, to communicate disquiet with his
>> conduct on the lists. These attempts to restore respectful and courteous conduct
>> on the lists have been rebuffed with communication that can be considered both
>> antagonistic and hostile, and the pattern of behavior observed has continued.
>> The IESG also notes that the following actions have already been taken in
>> response to the individual's actions:
>> * Two I-Ds were removed from the public archive due to their offensive nature:
>>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-les-white-intersectional-dots
>>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-les-white-tls-preferred-pronouns
>>     (following these links displays the tombstone notice explaining their removal)
>> * His posting rights were restricted on the admin-discuss mailing list:
>>     https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/admin-discuss/ZANH2VPN-U8VMvvOWLb5l03FdCs/
>> * A final public warning was issued on the gendispatch mailing list:
>>     https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/68a4amMa1aiaRUPzPGgXdiY9gHg/
>> None of the attempts to discuss his participation style or warn the individual
>> have led to any improvements. The IESG therefore believes that a PR action is
>> the correct response to his continued problematic behavior across a number of
>> different lists.
>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
>> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
>> last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 27 October 2022. Exceptionally, comments may
>> be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. If sending private feedback to the IESG,
>> please indicate if you would be open to having your comments anonymized and
>> shared in a summary.
>> Please note: Comments should be limited to the criteria described in BCP 83,
>> notably on whether the individual in question has engaged in postings that are
>> "unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject" in a manner
>> disruptive enough to warrant this action.
>> Lars Eggert
>> IETF Chair, on behalf of the IESG
>> –-
>> Examples of problematic emails during the last two years include:
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/zdq3F0PV40Cyw5ooj0orOWaYyUw/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/i-d7HlWgrkmrVlC7JZQSXDwIJCQ/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/YhPI9zZ_3xfidt5V-ORRnET36yY/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/B33zk8VfOYt4b4Cj-kIHXG3AXdg/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/d3iDS4WNkCJA3aMFnX2HjP4tsps/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/-On8AHrdnnCMlJOOyb1M1nlYMpk/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/n6UMvDuYLKmmvpP1ajICFvf634M/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/QCdjDbokmlARcwVqQ1TV3Rlz7eQ/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/X6OF0MBKAzyLhYaAfAxS6srXRNw/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/idJhG1MsLmKHyRlaAafcW2JF6Z8/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/LoGSVatZ4EsYRq4K52rmvRZTndk/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/pl2lVqhtF4Z-0YuTjhCOmdyi1qE/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/DFgnF_j8py_eMBGI1IUFdMahTKw/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/terminology/T3oCpY3BbTNLXWAWsCnFvahRLUQ/
>> * https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/admin-discuss/xLuz4WTCm5ibIiMVN5ID8OWsCI0/