Re: [ldapext] DBIS - new IETF drafts

Howard Chu <hyc@highlandsun.com> Mon, 06 January 2014 21:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ldapext] DBIS - new IETF drafts
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Mark R Bannister wrote:
> On 06/01/2014 21:19, Howard Chu wrote:
>>
>>>> I must say I'm alarmed at seeing a new proposal that is primarily
>>>> based on NIS-compatible attribute values. This is exactly the same
>>>> fundamental problem in the original RFC2307 which made it less than
>>>> useful for non-Solaris-based OSs like AIX and HPUX. This is the same
>>>> flaw that I attempted to correct in my updated draft
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-rfc2307bis-02
>>>
>>> Please would you give me some specific examples of what you believe is
>>> less than useful for AIX and HP-UX, and how you corrected these in
>>> RFC2307bis-02.  Forgive me but I am coming from a Linux and Solaris
>>> perspective.
>>
>> This is all pretty old ground.
>> http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200310/msg00138.html
>>
>
> Ok, so rather than being "alarmed" you could have just said, "please
> would you consider seconds instead of days for some of the shadow
> attributes".  This is a small request, and very easy to put into DBIS,
> and by no means a "fundamental problem".  Let's put comments into their
> right perspective.
>
> Do you have any more alarming problems that can be turned into simple
> requests?

The alarming part is that such obvious flaws in data modeling are still 
occurring today, over a decade after they were first addressed. I raised these 
issues back in 2001 as I recall. Some references in 2002 
http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200201/msg00628.html

>
> Thanks :-)
>
> p.s. I'm being playful, no rudeness intended.
>


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