Re: [lemonade] [imapext] [Lemonade] Copy mails from SMTP server to IMAP "Sent" folder

Stephan Bosch <stephan@rename-it.nl> Wed, 07 May 2014 20:13 UTC

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Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 22:11:27 +0200
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Subject: Re: [lemonade] [imapext] [Lemonade] Copy mails from SMTP server to IMAP "Sent" folder
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Hi,

On 5/7/2014 9:27 PM, Jayantheesh S B wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>  
>
> While surfing internet for IMAP protocol, from the below link, its
> mentioned that saving the mail in Sent folder for IMAP account can  be
> avoided
>
> by URLAUTH (RFC 4467 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4467>) and
> CATENATE (RFC 4469 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4469>) in IMAP and
> BURL (RFC 4468 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4468>) in
> SMTP-SUBMISSIONrfc.
>
>  
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol
>
>  
>
> Unlike some proprietary protocols which combine sending and retrieval
> operations, sending a message and saving a copy in a server-side
> folder with a base-level IMAP client requires transmitting the message
> content twice, once to SMTP for delivery and a second time to IMAP to
> store in a sent mail folder. This is remedied by a set of extensions
> defined by the IETF LEMONADE Working Group for mobile devices: URLAUTH
> (RFC 4467 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4467>) and CATENATE (RFC 4469
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4469>) in IMAP and BURL (RFC 4468
> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4468>) in SMTP-SUBMISSION. POP servers
> don't support server-side folders so clients have no choice but to
> store sent items on the client. Many IMAP clients can be configured to
> store sent mail in a client-side folder, or to BCC oneself and then
> filter the incoming mail instead of saving a copy in a folder
> directly. In addition to the LEMONADE "trio", Courier Mail Server
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courier_Mail_Server> offers a
> non-standard method of sending using IMAP by copying an outgoing
> message to a dedicated outbox folder
>
>  
>
> Assume, user has sent an email with 5 MB of attachment from Smart
> Phone, its consuming mobile data twice, since same mail has to be
> copied to "Sent" folder of IMAP account.
>
> For end user, totally more than 10MB is consumed. Please clarify how
> this can be avoided by using above specified IETF Lemonade standard.
>
> I did not see any section which talks about the Mail copy to IMAP sent
> folder. Kindly clarify.
>

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5550#section-8

Regards,

Stephan.