Re: [Lime-oam-model] Design Team report

Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Sat, 21 March 2015 18:40 UTC

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From: Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com>
To: Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 'Tom Taylor' <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com>, 'Ronald Bonica' <rbonica@juniper.net>, "lime-oam-model@ietf.org" <lime-oam-model@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Lime-oam-model] Design Team report
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I think we can support both proactive mode and on demand mode by generalizing ping/traceroute rpc.

-Qin
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发件人: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com] 
发送时间: 2015年3月22日 1:58
收件人: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Tom Taylor'; Qin Wu; 'Ronald Bonica'; lime-oam-model@ietf.org
抄送: 'Deepak Kumar (dekumar)'
主题: RE: [Lime-oam-model] Design Team report

Hi Adrian, et. al,
the only identified common OAM function identified so far is ping/traceroute. But this is, primarily, on-demand functions and do not require configuration but are, what is referred, long-running command, which is sort of challenge for Netconf  but not specific to LIME discussion. Configuration of OAM, as I think of it, is primarily for proactive OAM tools, e.g. BFD Async, TWAMP in IP. And that where I find RFC 7276 and attempt to extend TRIL OAM to IP and LDP-based IP/MPLS OAMs come short.

	Regards,
		Greg

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Subject: RE: [Lime-oam-model] Design Team report

> Bottom line: I'm saying that the generic LIME model should be able to 
> trigger performance monitoring regardless of the layer under examination.

Well say "attempt to" because, if the layer doesn't support a particular OAM function, obviously it won't be triggered.
Similarly, if an implementation is missing that function.

But beyond that, yes, there is a set of generic OAM functions that need to be in the LIME model for config and enablement.
Since the model is generic and layer-independent, we would assume that the function set in the LIME model is a superset of the functions in any specific known layer.

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