Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type

Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> Thu, 12 October 2017 20:22 UTC

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From: Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 14:22:48 -0600
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Subject: Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: link-relations <link-relations@ietf.org>, Geoffrey Bilder <gbilder@crossref.org>, Michael Nelson <mln@cs.odu.edu>, Simeon Warner <simeon.warner@cornell.edu>, "John A. Kunze" <jak@ucop.edu>, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:

> OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication process,
> in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving this
> registration, given the discussion we've had.
>
> We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally
> prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case
> there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some
> reason.
>
>
Understood.


> Do you need registration before the document is published?
>
>
If possible, we would like that indeed because there are operational and
ongoing implementations of the intended relation type. These have, thus
far, used "identifier" as per the discussion that was had here. But I would
like to be able to get in touch asap with known developers & update the
recommendations at http://signposting.org regarding the change from
"identifier" to "cite-as". I am pretty sure that developers would
appreciate knowing that the relation type will not change anymore beyond
the current change from "identifier" to "cite-as". Registration of
"cite-as" would significantly help with that regard.

Cheers

Herbert



> Cheers,
>
>
> > On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> > Hi Herbert,
> >
> > That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational
> through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD
> >
> >
> > I had thought independent submission, if acceptable.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Herbert
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear
> > >
> > > I would like to register the following relation type:
> > >
> > > * Relation Name: cite-as
> > >
> > > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that
> the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of
> referencing.
> > >
> > > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J.,
> and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred
> URI for Referencing. https://datatracker.ietf.org/
> doc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/
> > >
> > > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt to
> register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding
> "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle
> on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier".
> > >
> > > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated
> by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in
> scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org. As soon as "cite-as"
> is registered:
> > >
> > > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of
> "identifier" to "cite-as"
> > >
> > > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from
> "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
> > >
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> > > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
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Herbert Van de Sompel
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