Re: request to register "cite-as" relation type

[Mark Nottingham <[e-mail]>]

Hi Herbert,

That sounds reasonable; a bit chicken-and-egg, but I think the relation name is specific enough where it's pretty low risk.

Since RFC8288 just got published, would you mind out trying out our new process by filing an issue over here?

  https://github.com/link-relations/registry/

Cheers,


> On 13 Oct 2017, at 7:22 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mark Nottingham <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> OK. Normally, the registration is made as part of the publication process, in the case of RFCs; I don't think we'll have any issues approving this registration, given the discussion we've had.
> 
> We can register it earlier, if there's a need. However, we generally prefer to do the registration when the document is published, in case there's a last-minute change, or the document doesn't make it for some reason.
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> 
> Understood.
>  
> Do you need registration before the document is published?
> 
> 
> If possible, we would like that indeed because there are operational and ongoing implementations of the intended relation type. These have, thus far, used "identifier" as per the discussion that was had here. But I would like to be able to get in touch asap with known developers & update the recommendations at http://signposting.org <http://signposting.org/> regarding the change from "identifier" to "cite-as". I am pretty sure that developers would appreciate knowing that the relation type will not change anymore beyond the current change from "identifier" to "cite-as". Registration of "cite-as" would significantly help with that regard.
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> Cheers
> 
> Herbert
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>  
> Cheers,
> 
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> > On 11 Oct 2017, at 1:49 pm, Herbert Van de Sompel <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Mark Nottingham <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> > Hi Herbert,
> >
> > That looks good. Are you planning to publish this as Informational through the Independent Submission Editor, or get it sponsored by a WG or AD
> >
> >
> > I had thought independent submission, if acceptable.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Herbert
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 10 Oct 2017, at 8:59 am, Herbert Van de Sompel <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear
> > >
> > > I would like to register the following relation type:
> > >
> > > * Relation Name: cite-as
> > >
> > > * Description: A link with the "cite-as" relation type indicates that the link target is preferred over the link context for the purpose of referencing.
> > >
> > > * Reference: Van de Sompel, H., Nelson, M.L., Bilder, G., Kunze, J., and Warner, S. (August 2017) cite-as: A Link Relation to Convey a Preferred URI for Referencing. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandesompel-citeas/>
> > >
> > > This request to register "cite-as" is the result of a prior attempt to register "identifier". Significant concerns were voiced regarding "identifier" and, as a result, the co-authors of the I-D decided to settle on "cite-as", which was proposed during the discussions of "identifier".
> > >
> > > The request to register "cite-as" on the basis of ID-00 is motivated by ongoing adoption of various patterns for using link relation types in scholarly communication, see http://signposting.org <http://signposting.org/>. As soon as "cite-as" is registered:
> > >
> > > - Existing implementations will be asked to change their use of "identifier" to "cite-as"
> > >
> > > - Documentation will be updated to reflect the change from "identifier" to "cite-as" at http://signposting.org/identifier/ <http://signposting.org/identifier/>
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Herbert Van de Sompel
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