Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback
Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com> Thu, 21 April 2011 06:44 UTC
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From: Eran Hammer-Lahav <eran@hueniverse.com>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:44:25 -0700
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Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "link-relations@ietf.org" <link-relations@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback
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Makes sense to me. As an aside, would an expired I-D work as an alternative copy? EHL > -----Original Message----- > From: link-relations-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:link-relations- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nottingham > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:23 PM > To: Julian Reschke > Cc: Ian Hickson; link-relations@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingback > > There's some discussion currently going on about making updating the > registries easier, with simplified procedures for corrections, updates, etc. > > If/when that happens, I'm thinking that a reference to Ian's site (or similar) > isn't problematic, as the main problem -- that it may become unavailable if > something happens to Ian -- isn't such an issue. > > Make sense? > > Cheers, > > > On 08/04/2011, at 4:53 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > > > On 11.08.2010 05:35, Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> ... > >> If you meet the "RFC or Open Standard" test, it's possible to register it. > >> > >> Note that publishing on the independent submission Informational RFC > track isn't really "through the IETF process" -- it's at the discretion of the RFC > Editor, which is a separate entity. See: > >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/indsubs.html > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4846 > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5742 > >> > >> While I can't say that it's necessarily a quick process, the amount of work > involved (beyond draft formatting) is relatively low, and there are a few > upsides, including: > >> > >> 1) RFCs are institutionally guaranteed not to change over time; you say > that the spec is frozen, but there aren't checks or balances, nor conventions > in place, to prevent future changes. > >> 2) When you die and your Web site disappears, an RFC will have a better > chance of persisting in an unambiguous state. > >> ... > > > > Assuming we are ok with the content, but not with the *location* of the > spec, there may be an easy way to fix this. > > > > For instance, > > > > - use > <http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090228033516/http://hixie.ch/specs/ > pingback/pingback> as reference, or > > > > - have Ian send the spec as attachment to the www-archive mailing list, and > then link to the attachment in the mail archive. > > > > Best regards, Julian > > -- > Mark Nottingham http://www.mnot.net/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archives",… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archiv… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST "archiv… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Ian Hickson
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Julian Reschke
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST - pingb… Mark Nottingham